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Feedback is, as always, most welcome.

Good show once again. I'd like to congratulate Tommy and Tokyo for the victory, that was a big challenge for me, y'know, 1 guy vs 2 great rpers. I'm glad I could hang :p

The new graphics look cool and better than the former ones, good one Ak.

Now the Tag Title match... Well, Vossler and Aelyra have been pulling work since the beginning so I can't really shoot them down, but I feel like some people got destroyed in that match lol. Don't get me wrong, it's a good match, a pain in the ass to write but you did a good job. I read the whole match word for word without skipping a few parts so you did well. I just believe some people deserved to hit at least a few moves. Just my opinion.

Still, good show overall once again. Good job everyone.

Was too pissed off at the tag match to even read the rest of the show, presume it was quite predictable.

Big shoutout for making me and Carl look like little bitches.

Good job for making yourself look beast too, guess rping 4 weeks straight and missing 1 deadline means you get killed. *shrugs*

I presume I'll get hate for this but I'm beyond caring, peace.

That match had a lot of people involved. It was inevitable that not everyone could come out looking fantastic. It took ages to write as it was. It is what it is. I mean, given how you two have decided to speak to me about, I implore you or Carl to write the next one. Perhaps you can do it better than me. I dunno.

That said, there's no need to be snarky over it. It's one match, hardly a burial and hardly the worst that could have been done to either character. But let me be clear about the purpose of this thread; constructive criticism is welcome, talking to me like I'm a piece of crap is not.

Akragth wrote:

That match had a lot of people involved. It was inevitable that not everyone could come out looking fantastic. It took ages to write as it was. It is what it is. I mean, given how you two have decided to speak to me about, I implore you or Carl to write the next one. Perhaps you can do it better than me. I dunno.

That said, there's no need to be snarky over it. It's one match, hardly a burial and hardly the worst that could have been done to either character. But let me be clear about the purpose of this thread; constructive criticism is welcome, talking to me like I'm a piece of crap is not.

So it's not inevitable that people come out looking bad, so why weren't you the one who came out looking bad? Oh right, you're the Gm. Got you. And of course the legend that is Sin Min couldn't possibly look bad....

I'm not talking to you like a piece of crap, I am rightfully angry. That match was a joke, it doesn't matter how long it took to write you don't need to bury half the competitors. Had I gone out in a different light it wouldn't have bothered me. What bothers me is looking shit.

I am snarky over it because now my character looks shit, so if you have any suggestions on how to unshit my character please do let me know. I'm okay with constructive criticism but being shit on isn't very nice.

There's a huge difference between "not everyone could come out looking fantastic" and only Ak and Aelyra looking fantastic...Also, I have never talked to you like you were a piece of crap (if you're only talking about Helm, then my bad). If you consider the way we're talking to you rude, then maybe you're just overly sensitive.

I don't really care about it much now, I just think my PMs to you deserved a decent reply, as "Excuse me?" didn't quite suffice.

About the rest of the show, I think it was pretty good...


P.S - I also feel like the rest of the tags were there just to be fodder for you and Aelyra's team.

To be fair, Ak and Sin's rp as well as Aelyra and Tremont's rp were about 100% better than anything either of you have written.

Awesome show. The tag match was the hardest to guess the winner but atleast on of the teams I guessed won

[quote="AdamWolfe"]To be fair, Ak and Sin's rp as well as Aelyra and Tremont's rp were about 100% better than anything either of you have written.
 
Did I say I deserved to win? No. I deserved a lot better than being jobbed however. I've rped for all 4 shows, I at least deserve that courtesy.

Pm Helm wrote:

So it's not inevitable that people come out looking bad, so why weren't you the one who came out looking bad? Oh right, you're the Gm. Got you. And of course the legend that is Sin Min couldn't possibly look bad....

I mean, when this is where your argument starts, how is this supposed to be constructive?

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I'm not talking to you like a piece of crap, I am rightfully angry. That match was a joke, it doesn't matter how long it took to write you don't need to bury half the competitors. Had I gone out in a different light it wouldn't have bothered me. What bothers me is looking shit.

You're confusing burying with losing. A burial would be you losing every week. Once? No.

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I am snarky over it because now my character looks shit, so if you have any suggestions on how to unshit my character please do let me know. I'm okay with constructive criticism but being shit on isn't very nice.

Your character got beaten in a cheap way, sure. But you know what? That happens in wrestling. How to make that work for you? You can rant about how your defeat was cheap and deserve another shot. Or you can talk about how you were cheated out of the shot you had. Hell, there dozens of ways you can spin it in your favour.

It's one match. It hardly broke your character and the frank truth is that in a few days, few people will even remember anything but the winner.

Carl Tannehill wrote:

Also, I have never talked to you like you were a piece of crap (if you're only talking about Helm, then my bad). If you consider the way we're talking to you rude, then maybe you're just overly sensitive.

I mean, really? Over sensitive? *sigh*

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I don't really care about it much now, I just think my PMs to you deserved a decent reply, as "Excuse me?" didn't quite suffice.

About the rest of the show, I think it was pretty good...


P.S - I also feel like the rest of the tags were there just to be fodder for you and Aelyra's team.

Mate, your PM was clear bait. I'm not particularly interested in arguing with you.

Pm Helm wrote:

AdamWolfe wrote:

To be fair, Ak and Sin's rp as well as Aelyra and Tremont's rp were about 100% better than anything either of you have written.
 
Did I say I deserved to win? No. I deserved a lot better than being jobbed however. I've rped for all 4 shows, I at least deserve that courtesy.

Shit happens. How you spin it to make yourself look good is up to you. They way I see it, your a Dictator or Prime Minister or whatever. You shouldn't be able to win without back up in the first place. Maybe Rey should have jumped in to help. But how your character got eliminated fits your character

Scarlett Silver Vs Cali - Good, solid match. Great opener. Agreed with the winner.


Grant Bennett Vs Cen - Another great match but I felt like Cen tipped the scales RP wise. Nonetheless, I know Cen can write on regardless.


Loh & Malietoa vs House of Serena (Magustine & Drauga) - I've been catching on to the Serena fever. Good match, not the result I wanted but the result they needed. I'd love to see how they recover from a beatdown, rather than handing it out.


Supremacy (Svanr & Kveldulv) versus Tokyo Zombie & Tommy Stone - Another result of which I can't wait to read the RPs after for. Again, knowing the writers they'll handle it well.


Amis Shelton vs Anthony Caffrey - Didn't read, Amis probably won. Carty commentary would've probably been hilarious. He probably interfered too.


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Benny and Shane Vs Akragth and Sinister Minister (The Order) Vs Aelyra and Tremont Vs The Dictatorship (Helm and Rodriguez) Vs O-Solo (by himself) Vs Vossler and Wolfe Vs Bobby Franchise and Carl Tannehill

First off, I know the struggle of writing big matches like this. It's hard, especially with the talents involved. While I still think O-Solo going in by himself and not getting eliminated first was stupid, if the intention was to make him look strong. Then 'sure, I guess' is my response. I'll take this team by team.


Benny and Shane - I felt like Benny was sort of written out early on in the match. I know he got beat down, but eh. He really got back into the match to be eliminated. The way Shane was eliminated made Adam look strong, as well as Shane himself. So that can be appreciated for both character's development.

Akragth and Sinister Minister - SinMin was in it to get eliminated. Akragth was prominent and good in the match, but some of that thunder could've been passed on to Akragth. Also, Vindication on that chair? Do you want me to fucking murder the damn fool? Jeesh.

Aelyra and Tremont - Being one half of this, I was actually a little surprised with the result. Aelyra was prominent too, and Tremont hasn't hit his finisher once yet in the fed. He's been pinned out more than he's won, but I can appreciate the moves he made during the match. Aelyra... bit too prominent as well, perhaps? SinMin+Ak situation here too.

The Dictatorship - There's gotta be a quick elimination to set the tone. Shame it had to be Helm and not the ridiculous one-man gimmick O-Solo was running into this match. But whatever, I'm sure they could come up with some political way of having this handled. As for Rodriguez, all he did the match offensively was stomp in on Benny. I gotchu tho, I got SinMin just after it. Damn near killed 'em. The RPs that both have been doing compared to the way they were booked in the match I don't agree with, but this wasn't even close to a burial, as it's been claimed. You didn't come out in tutu's and didn't suck O-Solo's dick in the middle of the ring, so there's that. But extra points for the Madam Snapshot reference.

O-Solo - Shouldn't have lasted more than 1 or two paragraphs. Stupid gimmick to enter 'solo'. But whatever.

Vossler and Wolfe - I digged it. Wolfe looked good. I like how he was booked. So did I Voss. But maybe some of the thunder could've been passed on to other teams. Still though. Nearly killed a man. Liked that I didn't tap, made me look strong. Which, of course, I can appreciate. You don't book a champ to look weak after making a point of championship integrity in private.

Bobby Franchise and Carl Tannehill - What the fuck was that Bobby elimination? Using her arm to cover Bobby. He then forces the ref to count? He couldn't have done it himself? Frown on that one. I know Carl hasn't been very pleased with the way he was booked but I thought it was appropriate. Maybe had Ak look a little too strong but overall it was fine.


OVERALL: Akragth and Aelyra were booked to prominent in the match in my eyes. O-Solo lasted too long in this match, and I think the Dictatorship deserved a little better. They can come back from it because they are who they are, but claiming they're 'buried' is a stretch. 7/10 match.

8/10 show, nice RPs from everyone and I liked the tag match regardless.

I really want The Dictatorship all up in the Mayhem title seen. It seems they would fit there. Or head hunt Voss. He has now challengers for the Carnage title right now.

I'm kinda baffled how you reviewed a show without actually reading it, Voss.

Also, where's Rey with his puto segment when we need him?

Anthony Caffrey wrote:

I'm kinda baffled how you reviewed a show without actually reading it, Voss.

Also, where's Rey with his puto segment when we need him?

Rey's Reviews > Voss Reviews any day.

For me personally, I enjoyed the show. Very well put together. Whilst the tag match is controversial as the above posts show, I wouldn't want to write a beast of a match.

Anthony Caffrey wrote:

I'm kinda baffled how you reviewed a show without actually reading it, Voss.

Also, where's Rey with his puto segment when we need him?

Think the only match he said he didn't read was yours

AdamWolfe wrote:

Anthony Caffrey wrote:

I'm kinda baffled how you reviewed a show without actually reading it, Voss.

Also, where's Rey with his puto segment when we need him?

Think the only match he said he didn't read was yours

WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY THE WHOLE FN SHOW!?

Anthony Caffrey wrote:

reviewed a show without actually reading it, Voss.

Only thing I didn't read was your match, I read everything else.
The storyline doesn't interest me.

Fuck You I'm The Champ wrote:

AdamWolfe wrote:

Anthony Caffrey wrote:

I'm kinda baffled how you reviewed a show without actually reading it, Voss.

Also, where's Rey with his puto segment when we need him?

Think the only match he said he didn't read was yours

WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY THE WHOLE FN SHOW!?

He was more worried about THE WHOLE WOLFEN SHOW

Pm Helm wrote:

And of course the legend that is Sin Min couldn't possibly look bad....

Lol, let's be honest.  First week I was here I didn't even make it down to my match.  I got concussed in the back or w/e from a backstage fight.  Then a few weeks later I got destroyed by Wolfe where I'm not sure if I got anything more than a punch or a kick on him.

I've looked bad plenty of times, but thanks for calling me a legend, mate.

As for the show, I have no complaints. I enjoyed it.

Vossler wrote:

Scarlett Silver Vs Cali - Good, solid match. Great opener. Agreed with the winner.



The Dictatorship - There's gotta be a quick elimination to set the tone. Shame it had to be Helm and not the ridiculous one-man gimmick O-Solo was running into this match. But whatever, I'm sure they could come up with some political way of having this handled. As for Rodriguez, all he did the match offensively was stomp in on Benny. I gotchu tho, I got SinMin just after it. Damn near killed 'em. The RPs that both have been doing compared to the way they were booked in the match I don't agree with, but this wasn't even close to a burial, as it's been claimed. You didn't come out in tutu's and didn't suck O-Solo's dick in the middle of the ring, so there's that. But extra points for the Madam Snapshot reference.

O-Solo - Shouldn't have lasted more than 1 or two paragraphs. Stupid gimmick to enter 'solo'. But whatever.

Man Fuck you talkin about, fuck you and ur shitty gimmick. If you want to talk shit do it in the ring you fucking bitch

I think he has done it in the ring as he is currently holding two titles. You were a single wrestler taking on tag teams. A relatively unknown wrestler to boot. He's right in saying you should have been eliminated very quickly. If your character was built up as this freak of nature then sure, you should have lasted. But your not.

If you don't like how you were portrayed then use it as fuel for your rps. Also, throw your hat back into it cause they now need opponents. I'm sure Helm would love some retribution for getting cheap shotted

Lol. So much hate for the main event. And reasonably so I guess. The match was fixed before rps were even done so I guess congratulations to the winners?

I agree with others. I believe that the show should have been postponed if there wasn't enough time to write the main event. It appeared to be rushed and a lot of people just got squashed. For example, Im pretty sure I had like 2 moves and then I got rekt by sinister minister for a second time in a row (look at brutality 2 show to watch me get rekt in two moves by him). It kind of sucks to put a lot of time in to rping then get rekt in two moves. But at least I got to main event!

As for O-solo his rp was beast. I didn't expect him to win honestly and yeah he went into the ring solo, but thats his gimmick and his rp supported that well. So if vossler wants to diss people I guess hes willing to feud against them? haha


Well what happened happened. I hope in the future these things dont happen again, maybe we should be more honest and ak you could ask if anyone else can help with writing matches, i dont know how many people are doing that and helping you, it is a huge show to put together.

And I think Ill get the review done by monday or tuesday.

Rey wrote:

Well what happened happened. I hope in the future these things dont happen again, maybe we should be more honest and ak you could ask if anyone else can help with writing matches, i dont know how many people are doing that and helping you, it is a huge show to put together.

Tbh that's what he has been doing lol. He's been looking for more match writers since Brutality #2, I guess.

Rey, weren't you the one who once wrote a match where I got in the ring, immediately had someone fart in my face and then eliminate me? Atleast I was told it was you.